Our “Sustainworthying” response to a House-of-Lords “sub-blogging e-site” currently on The Death Penalty :

 

 

Abolishing the Death Penalty

Lord HyltonI have been opposed to executions ever since I became involved with cases of miscarriage of justice, many years ago.  The struggle against capital punishment goes on across the world, though rather slowly.

Some of you may have heard BBC 5 Live’s programme on 8 August.  This had an interview with Kris Maharaj and his wife, Marita.  He has been on death row in USA for 30 years.  His barrister claims that he is innocent.

The case seems to highlight the inefficiency and cruelty of some judicial systems.  In Saudi Arabia, fourteen men are facing death.  They include two juveniles and a disabled man.

Please work to get capital punishment abolished, wherever humane imprisonment is possible.

 

 

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4 comments for “Abolishing the Death Penalty”

  1. 09/08/2017 at 11:45 am

    I agree with you on the death penalty. However, I believe Kris Maharaj’s sentence was commuted to life imprisonment some years ago. I do think whole life sentences should be an option, although not in the unsanitary conditions Mr Maharaj is said to have suffered.

  2. 10/08/2017 at 10:14 am

    We first and foremost need to have at least one immediate-&-longestterm Alternative to “killing-off”.

    We would not include the two extremes of “unsanitary conditions” (thank you, Jonathan)
    nor “mollycoddling” (three good meals a day, plenty of safe-solitude and supervised ‘socialising’…)

    [nor of course “bribery-corrupt ‘privileges’ – between warder and imprisoned”].
    ———-
    I am a ‘voluntary unpaid champion’
    for “Self-&-Civilisation Sustain-worthy-ing” –
    promoting “population de-urbanisation” into peacefully-revolutionarily-new
    “Leasehold-only Sustain-worthy-ing-ly Lifeplace Cooperative Kitchen-and Market Gardening Estates”
    (please don’t laugh just yet –
    there’s plenty of cool background to this reasoning via http://lifefresh.net) –

    within which peaceful-revolution criminals too could be
    Held
    [e.g. barbed wire surrounding their caravans-sub-estate or ‘sub-corner’ of a larger ‘new-normal’ Sustain-worthy-ing Estate “]
    upon perhaps slightly less “comfortable” frugalities and productivities bases
    than the “new-normal” sustain-worthy-ing ‘new-mainstream’ tenants in the Main Estates…

    {let me “give way” here ?)

  3. maude elwes
    11/08/2017 at 3:57 pm

    Lord Hylton,

    The death penalty is not simply used to convict and punish those guilty of a crime. It is used as a political ploy to rid a country of its opposition. Or, as a pay back for past triumphs. As in George Bush senior using the British, through the Blair betrayal, in order to see Saddam Hussain hang. Saddam had ridiculed Bush senior over the Kuwait event. Bush had been the head of the CIA when Hussain was set up by the US to lead Iraq. So, his naughty boy Kuwait escapade had to be seen to be punished severely, in order to teach others a lesson. The end result, of course, was the Iraqi people made to eat it along with him.

    I’m against the death penalty in any country and of course would add my name to any petition backing abolition. However, experience has taught me, human kind across the planet, evolves differently, some faster than others. Some not in tune with all or any. Therefore, to impose the wishes of one culture on another, within there own sphere, is neither workable or desirable. As, when you do believe you are right and therefore all must follow your lead, it inevitably ends with you taking the role of ‘parent.’ And as such, become responsible, in a paternal way, for those you have destabilised by interference.

    The outcome we see daily on our news and in our homeland. It will not be long before the death penalty will be once again called for as part of British law. As we will have now imported the base thinking of that which we wanted to rid the planet of. Laws of the world are now the expectation of those we call British.

    There are consequences and they are dire, when a seeing eye of righteousness decides others must follow their lead.

    • 14/08/2017 at 12:37 pm
      Your comment is awaiting moderation.Points,
      from my chosen “civilisation-sustainworthying reform” base which sees the monopolisticly dominant Rule of Law, planet-wide, to be
      “militantly over-destructive &-under-constructive adversarism”:
      and I now attempt some individual ‘scrutiny’ steps:-

      (1) That (“) the death-penalty

      [jsdm seeks to add detail: but especially the cloak and dagger “covert elimination” also allowing “honour killing” and various “permanent maimings and disablements
      e.g. “female-circumcision”]

      is a ‘ploy’ to get rid of opposition to a somewhat-flawed and vulnerable top-down “rule-of-law”(“).

      Agreed;
      yet this needs to be constitutionally as well as legislatively and civil-administratively fine-tooth-comb scrutinised and reformed for both today and the long-term ‘tomorrow’.

      (there are further points, but let me give way here –
      for the sake of “reading, learning, inwardly-digesting, discussing, and “responding”)

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