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{  Let’s see how our world-leadingly-democratic House of Lords’s “two-way democratic reach-out to the public” manages this JSDM author-publisher’s current attempt to correct a wrong spelling (rulers went out as rulkers)
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which version will Hansard choose to publish [often they simply publish each thing you submit, mistakes and all] –

 

The rotten heart of Europe

by Baroness Deech • 18/04/2017 • 5 Comments

Despite all the talk about the importance of maintaining our membership of the European Convention on Human Rights, it is increasingly seeming to be a dead letter in other European countries.  Here is a very brief rundown. It is sad that space does not permit coverage of yet more appalling situations in member states of the EU.

Hungary – discrimination against the Roma; detention of migrants in containers; refusal to accept the EU-determined quota of migrants; closing the independent Central European University; a razor wire fence on the border with Serbia and Croatia.

Austria has built a fence on the Slovenian border; Bulgaria has built a fence on the Turkish border to stop migration; Greece has fenced off Macedonia; Slovenia has fenced off Croatia.

Croatia – discrimination against the Roma; journalists under attack.

Slovakia will take only Christian migrants

Poland – the media under control; it is being investigated for breaches of the rule of law by the European Commission; refuses Muslim migrants.

Romania – admitted corruption in the judiciary, business and tax.

Sweden – rising antisemitism.

In many European states, it is reported that intolerance, xenophobia, racism, domestic violence are on the rise. https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/european-union. The European Parliament is calling for investigations into states’ complicity with rendition and torture. France has renewed her state of emergency for the fifth time.

And even more concerning is the fact that Germany, Italy and the Netherlands are among the European countries so heavily dependent on Russian oil (Gazprom) that there is no way they would contemplate sanctions against Russia for its actions in Syria or anywhere else. The Eastern European states still live in the shadow of their former Soviet oppression.  So much for a united moral European foreign policy.

Why would any democracy with a real respect for human rights want to be in a union with these countries?

 

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5 comments for “The rotten heart of Europe”

LordBlagger

18/04/2017 at 7:27 pm

So why would the UK state reserve the right to slave labour?

(1) No one shall be held in slavery or servitude.
(2) No one shall be required to perform forced or compulsory labour.

(a) any work required to be done in the ordinary course of detention imposed according to the provisions of Article 5 … or during conditional release from such detention;
(b) any service of a military character or, in case of conscientious objectors in countries where they are recognised, service exacted instead of compulsory military service;
(c) any service exacted in case of an emergency or calamity threatening the life or well-being of the community;
(d) any work or service which forms part of normal civil obligations.

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Articles b, c and d need to be removed.

But no doubt you support forced labour when you are the slave master.

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LordBlagger

18/04/2017 at 7:31 pm

Article 7: No Punishment Without Law
What does Article 7 cover?

Non-retroactivity, the principle of legality or, if you are into Latin, nullum crimen nulla poena sine lege (no crime, no punishment without law).

And precisely what does Article 7(1) say exactly?

No one shall be held guilty of any criminal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a criminal offence under national or international law at the time that it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the criminal offence was committed.

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Again, retrospective taxation has been made legal

So much when the state is desperate for the cash.

Watch out when the state makes fraud by the state legal. They will exempt themselves from section 2, 2006 fraud act.

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LordBlagger

18/04/2017 at 7:33 pm

The second relate to criminal cases only and six specific additional requirements are imposed:
•To be presumed innocent until found guilty (Article 6(2))
•To be informed promptly in a language understandable to the suspect of the detail of ‘the nature and cause of the accusation against them’ (Article 6(3)(a))
•To have adequate time and facilities to prepare a defence (Article 6(3)(b))
•To defend yourself in person or through legal assistance of your own choosing or, if you cannot afford it, ‘to be given it free where the interests of justice so require’ (Article 6(3)(c))
•To examine, or have examined, witnesses and to obtain their attendance and examination (Article 6(3)(d))
•To have the free assistance of an interpreter if you cannot understand or speak the language used in court (Article 6(3)(e))

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Except if its HMRC, or its parking. Then you are found guilty first

No fines forfeitures or penalties without conviction, unless its the tax man, or the parking crooks.

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JohnSDMiles-of-39B1

18/04/2017 at 7:55 pm

Clear enough, baroness.
Taking your very informative report [‘though of necessity headlines only]
‘tail-end’ first, you “ask”:-

“Why would any democracy with a real respect for human rights want to be in a union with these -” [other sorts of ‘democracy’] “- countries ?”

“The world has never yet had a “24/7 peoples-participatory-democracy -” [Historians speaking, this is] –
“- the nearest is the “Three-Party State”
based upon a 5-yearly few minutes per elector
to silently and wordlessly mark a small piece of paper with a pencilled X for a “person”
rather than for a “needs-based-policy/manifesto” or “list of Needs and Rights” –

the Constitution and Parliaments should be based upon every-one-of-the-Peoples’ Needs and NB please that “Rights” need to follow Needs, because every-one needs a “right” to “satisfy”or meet each of their needs –
and to do so
***sustain-worthily***
(including sustainably, affordably, and peace-abiding-legally)

{Our de facto Pseudo-Democracy in turn narrows down to
firstly “two-party state (e.g. Tory versus Labour)”
and nextly to “Three-Party-State” {as under the recent British Coalition Tory-&-Liberal ‘versus’ Labour} –
which ultimately results in the dominant-numbers party “winning the day” –
in Britain namely at present the Tory Party and/or_
their Tory-party-internally-appointed “leader” or Prime Minister
(but again NOT a democraticly-elected Office and top-governance job).

——————– need to pause here, I think ——————

– but let it be recommended to take note
that it is also the United Nations itself
that continues failing to establish
(1) an Individual Human Development Programme and Index
(2) a Longest-Term Sustain-worthy Human-Race-on-Earth Purpose
and
(3) a United Aggregate Human Development Programme thereto.

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LordBlagger

18/04/2017 at 9:04 pm

refusal to accept the EU-determined quota of migrants;

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Czech refused too.

Why should Czech politicians accept a dictate from elsewhere?

Should the electorate get a say?

Or should you, unelected, immune from the consequences of your action, force what you want on others, force them to pay, whilst pocketing cash yourself?

You don’t get it do you?

The reason why we have brexit and Trump, who no doubt you view as awful decisions is because of what you and others like you have done to the electorate.

But you don’t get it. How could you have shafted others? It must be good because of what you have? Cash to go through the turnstiles [maybe, but that’s a state secret]

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JohnSDMiles-of-39B1

20/04/2017 at 9:33 am

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

(Corrected)
The Challenge appears to be to –
“Positively and Positivisingly Peacefully Revolutionise The People, including equally, no comparative-advantages, our topmost-rulers –

{easily available, almost as easily do-able without either rocket-science or secondary-education – is still –

“Method III ‘No-Lose’ of Cooperative Needs-&-Hows-Recognition and Problem Solving”.}

[see a practical guidance sequence in 5-steps via not-for-profit, power nor prestige website http://www.lifefresh.co.uk – Basics pages ].
————–
Also reflecting from “Black Box Thinking” (Matthew Sayed) that
(“) it has become vital that we include in our training, education, and mindfulnessing, clear knowledge and “film-clipping” of every one of our own, and externally of human-civilisations’, failures –
otherwise we have stopped being able to learn anything at all, especially “the new” – (“).

Sayed goes on to spotlight [“] “certainty”, “perfection”, “omniscience/omnipotence”, ” ” and “absolute sufficiency” [“]
as being potentially (“) insidious “prisons” (“),
increasingly inhibiting this vitally-essential “ongoing-learnability” need
of our human-race;
and which need,
and especially here the corruptional-lack-of,
can be seen by every minimally ‘compos-mentis’ human-being
to be encompassing us civilisationally, each and all –
(again) in insidiously varied ‘percentage-degrees’ –
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{ Your thoughts, please – }

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